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This does not effect many of the Linux users, and i'm not sure if it's an issue with Mac users but windows users are forced to deal with the ugly step-brother of blender that is the lame console window that opens up with blender.

Both of these separate windows must be running at all times for blender to run and while it has it uses, especially with python scripting related tasks, It's annoying as hell that if you accidentally close the console window, blender goes with it.

2.5 i see has a console with in it's possible view windows that can be opened up.



as always, click the smaller image for a much larger version...

why not combine the two consoles into one and clean up our task bar making it's less likely to lose anything form an accidental closure of the Annoying pop under?

that's just me, but I'm sure I'm not the only one that feels this way...

this interactive console is already in blender 2.49 ... and 2.4(less) I think.


but yea, why not including the output console inside blender.
that would be nice.

it would cut down on my accidental closures of blender for sure...

Although I have found it useful in the past, to close blender with this after I've jammed it by asking it to do something ludicrous. It was nice not to have to pull up the task manager just to end a program that's "not responding".

I've crashed blender to a not responding state before and did try and close it by killing the Console window, it still took me going into the task manager to close down blender and start from my last auto save point.

further more... I ask you this, other then the outputs of Python Scripts and some import/export messages and what not, what real good is there to having a separate window for the console? If blender crashes due to an error, that window is killed out before you can read it, and if blender stop responding nothing I've noticed gets outputted to that console most of the time.

I guess.

And it is sort of annoying to have it take up space on my menubar down there. As long as they incorporate an error log or something, yeah, the ought to get rid of it.

You know, I got used to it fairly quickly. I usually have a console open in Linux so having one open in Windows isn't a big deal. I guess it is a matter of taste...

i use it to close out of blender if it freezes up, closes instantly for me and blender is not liking my new laptop for some reason so its been useful for that

aside from that, i don't really see the purpose of it being a separate window

Thing is, I don't think it's really Blender that needs that window open. It's all Python's doing. At least that is the only thing that uses it.

Well there might be a work around in windows itself for this. I might could offer a small program you could run that would hide the window. But I get this console window on windows machines without python so it is definately Blender and the way it is compiled. In fact, C++ will do the same thing unless you run this code:



So if I can find the window handle in the API, it could be set to hidden by running a 3rd party program. Of course I agree the console is used for debug info and I know it can installed to the blender as a script window. I just have to remember the script and where I saw it.

JAB

Ok now I found it, in the script window you go to System and Interactive Python Console. Also I could write you up a small program to hide/unhide the secondary console but there is one like this already: http://www.elongsoft.com/hidewindow/hidewindow.htm
However it has some drawbacks, begger window on start up and it must remain running.

This one is better: http://www.window-hide.com/

I know I could make one to hide and exit or unhide and exit unless you like the hotkey feature.

I know it is Blender creating it but it is Python using it. It is started when looking for Python and everything Python related. In short, if Blender didn't use Python, I don't think it would have that console.

I actually remember reading somewhere that they can get rid of that extra window. It was a matter of actually redoing the code so it hides that window.