Blender Underground

This is my 400th posting here on the old Blender Underground. I am going to take a moment to explain what DST is and the rant about why it should end... FOREVER.

It was first brought up in 1895 by George Vernon Hudson. The goal of DST was to reduce evening usage of incandescent lighting, formerly a primary use of electricity. Although much earlier, Benjamin Franklin, who said, "Early to bed, and early to rise, makes a man healthy, wealthy and wise," wrote a letter suggesting that Paris could save money on candles by rising earlier to use morning sunlight.

So there you have it. Save candle wax or 1 hour of electric... that is a load of cow -beep-!

It complicates timekeeping, and can disrupt meetings, travel, billing, record keeping, medical devices, public safety, heavy equipment, and sleep patterns. Bus, Aircraft, and Train schedules are virtually ruined by DST. Here is the US we have Wal-Mart and other 24/7 stores burning lights ALL DAY LONG! So tell me how that saves power? One person suggested to me this very week, that DST was for the safety of children going to school in the dark. That couldn't be more WRONG, all last week I left the house at 7am sharp the sun was already up. Monday when I leave the house it will be very DARK since it will be in fact 6am and not 7am. So if anything the argument of child safety is in reverse.

If an employer asked you to come in an hour early in the Spring and leave an hour early, I sure you would agree to do this. So why mess with the clocks? Our world is very different from the days of Hudson and Franklin. Our technology that depend on so greatly can cause real physical harm. Medical devices have adverse reactions to DST that have harmed patients. Computer guided transports such as ships, aircraft, and trains could have similar issues. Some factories have reported work related accidents directly link to the time change.

Asia doesn't observe DST, this is just North America and Europe thing. Not even all the US observes it, Arizona, Hawaii, and the territories of Puerto Rico, the Virgin Islands, American Samoa, Guam, and the Northern Mariana Islands remain on true time. So why get out of step with the rest of the world?

I am not dim witted, there are bigger issues in this vast world of ours. But I am not a mindless sheep or a slave to a clock. I have half a mind to show up at the regular time on Monday and tell them the time change is against my religion take me to court or talk to my ACLU lawyer.

Feel free to discuss you points of view but don't expect me to agree.

You seem right.

sucks that this is still going on.

There have been studies posted that give a pretty grim picture of the toll DST has on the human body. It relates to the quick jump in timing. It is known that for every hour of displaced time it takes 3 days to adjust to that time. They studied air travelers for this study. Also, it has been proven that it doesn't save any energy. In fact, it can wind up using more energy since they extended it into the end of winter. No, the only ones DST benefits are day labor employers. It gives them more work time in the morning hours before any heat sets in.

Shall we boycot this time change ?

lol ?

if you boycott the time change you have to remember to push all appointments back and hour. So if you have to be at work by 9 normally then now you have to be at work by 8 now.

ahahha,
That sound even possible.

I can imagine a discussion like that :

folk - so meet me Wednesday at 10 o-clock.
Goliath - Okay. Wait, are you still using the deprecated DTS system ?
folk - ...yes I am,
Goliath - Alright, let me put this apointement at 9 o-clock where it will actually be.
folk - ...I feel like a piece of deprecated crap.

For the record he left at the 7am DST so he made it to school. I don't care which one, just let's let's pick one time and stick with it people. Even Star Date, -311801.21949518 would be better than screwing with my head. A much better way to do things would be to use "fuzzy time". I would get up before the sun rises. Come in to work in morning between breakfast and lunch. Stay at work until I am either told to go home or no longer feel I am working my best. Go to bed when I get tired. See I could live life without the clock. TAKE THAT SWITZERLAND! I would need to get paid a salary of course.

That is interresting Jack,

Getting paid the hours you works,
Working the hours you want.

Unfortunately, this would create a little problem of syncronism that
wouldn't work in an underpressure entreprise that require the very best of it's staff to stay alive.

...good idea for google or facebook staff though.
...they probably are already enjoying this technique very well.

honestly the whole issue of time is rather flawed.

I say to someone meet me on Skype at 10:30 and they live in a totally different time Zone. I find it happens where they will come looking for me at 10:30 their time. time is based relative to earths rotations and the like. but that right there is a flawed concepts as the earth speeds up and slows down all the dang time.

If for instance we before an extra planetary Race? spread across our galaxy in a few systems. Who time do we follow? not every planet rotates the same way, not every place will rotate at all.

I don't know about anyone else but not having a standard job where I have to be up at a certain time and have to manage my time in a traditional manner i find that i stay awake nearly 24 hours and sleep for about 6 and feel pretty well rested. My doctor even has commented how much healthier I have been since he first met me which was while i had a traditional day to day grind like everyone else. granted i was working graveyard shifts.

the fact is. this 16 up and 8 down concept is bogus. along with the concept of ever region needs to have it own time that reflects the Daylight on that portion of the earth due to the position of the sun in the sky.

If we all converted to a universal clock system., and say, have 32 hour days. with 8 day weeks and 4 week months and 8 month years. we have something just as arbitrary as what we have now but at least i could tell some one in japan from Utah. Meet me on skype at exactly 1830hrs and expect to see them as 1830 would be the same for me as it would for them.

but that just me.

time is very abstract. I Often, defiantly even, ignore time when dealing with others.

"Well Steve you need to get back on a normal schedule."

To which I reply I am on a normal schedual.

"it you who is the one who feel your definition of normal is correct. And for you it may very well be for me it is so far from correct that it almost a sin to observe your normal. and who the F--- are you to tell me when i need to sleep and when to wake?"

That argument actually worked. My dad no longer questions me when I call him at 12 at night becuase that when i am generally active and thinking at my best.

Universal time... that the way to go. Like a stardate of sorts. heck i don't care if you keep your 24 hour a day 7 day a week 12 months a year crap. just brake the link of time from earth rotation and do away with this dumb and rather troubling Daylight saving bull... If you want to use more of the daylight each day. wake up at sunrise and sleep at sunset. don't force everyone else to follow your obsession with the sunlight.

Well that was the first poll I ever posted. It looks like most of us would never miss DST. Here it is midnight and I am still wide awake because like penix1 said my body knows it is only 11pm.

I like NK's posting about how flawed time is and I would accept a universal time. I could adjust to using GMT or whatever they want to toss at me. Just as long as they stop jumping back and forth.

Thanks for letting me vent.

I like Krow's idea of universal time. A few additions, though:

If you start making time universal, define "time" on better portions, like 1 minute consisting of 100 seconds, 1 hour consisting of 100 minutes, etc. Would make calculating things in physics much easier. Then define 1 second to be something reasonable in relation to the speed of light, like 1 second = speed of light divided by 1 billion. Redefine lengths, too, also in relation to the speed of light.

To see what I mean, take a look at the Planck units. Those are scientific units calculated on the basis of "natural constants" like speed of light or the Planck constant "h". Introducing them in real life would end the random measurements we use in our daily life. Sure, it would make things like history a bit more difficult and would take some time to be accepted, but if you take, for example, "money" as a reference, it's value has been redefined lots of times, so why shouldn't that work with other units, too?

Planck units would make physics easier a big deal, it would influence our everyday lives for sure, but not in an all too negative way.

Sorry this turned out as a rant, it's just that I don't get why we're using so crude "natural constants" to keep our weird measurements...

Are you telling me this job doesn't exist?

Executive Wanted: Flexible hours, No experience, High School Education preferred but not required, duties include; playing video games, getting back massages, and testing new technology. Perks include; company car, personal assistant, 401 K, medical, dental, and pay starts at $50,000 yearly.

Because that's what I am holding out for.

Well Why not a 10 base like metrics... everything is a stack of tens... We break it all down to one standard base unit and then start multiplying/dividing it by tens. 10 centiseconds =) that will work right?

It's all flawed anyways...
So who cares... i say we start using this new universal time now and laugh at the world for not following along.

"STEVE! Do you know what time it is?"

"Sure I do. It's 23 centiseconds past the 4th kilohour" =)

"What?"

"dude you need to update your notion of time if you're gonna roll with us cool kids..."

GASP! if ye do this right I can be 12 again for a few TeraCentric Years... WOOHOO! I can finally act my age again... LOL....

Well I just had a birthday so I am around 536,112,000 seconds old or pretty close. If we convert that to metric time...

Ok I guess I am still 17.

No matter which time system you use, you would still be 17 years young.